DMG Spell Point variant works with Spellcasting, not Pact Magic.
Thoughts on the Spell Points variant from the DMG? I'm getting ready to run my first 5e campaign, and these alternate rules caught my eye as seemingly more simple, and maybe more logical. Does anybody here have any experience using these rules? The spell point variant rule already states that you can only cast 6th,7th,8th, and 9th level spells only once per long rest. 2017-03-05, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601) Spoilers. This variant of the spell point system does not change the way a character prepares spells, casts spells, regains spell points, or any of the other rules from that system. However, the spellcaster’s pool of spell points represents a physical, not just mental, limit on his spellcasting power.
Class Variants 5e
By letting Warlocks use the Spell Point system (so a 5th lv Warlock has 10 points per short rest), it enables them to still utilize low level spells without hesitation. More flexibility.
Your thoughts? At first blush I think it’s less of a problem for warlocks than anyone else.
The main difference in spell points is it essentially lets you combine lower level spell slots into higher level ones. Autodesk fusion 360 cracked. So your sorc can turn a 1 and 2 into a fireball. Warlocks already do that. +
— Dan Dillon (@Dan_Dillon_1) May 23, 2020
Tugas akhir uin walisongo. What it would let warlocks do is break their higher level slots into multiple lower, increasing their casting flexibility particularly for 1st and 2nd level spells that don’t scale with up casting in a way they want to worry about.
Spell Points 5e Variant Rule
Spell points is all around more powerful. If your table is good with that, go for it!
Honestly if they aren’t taking short rests, its probably fine. Just keep an eye on how much easier if at all they start negotiating encounters and obstacles. Athlon 64 x2 4400.
Warlock using the option will probably have a less explosive impact.
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— Dan Dillon (@Dan_Dillon_1) May 23, 2020
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I've always really dug the whole idea of spell points. It makes more sense to me that magic would run on a generalized pool of energy instead of discrete, denominated charges. But I don't think I've ever actually tried a spell point system, not in any edition.
So, I'm wondering about the spell point variant in the 5e DMG. And, right off the bat, there are a few things that bug me about it.
Spell point costs. That's just a really weird, inelegant points-to-level conversion schedule, there. After mathing on it a bit, I guess the idea is that each level costs 1⅓ points more than the previous one, but it looks entirely nuts when simplified to integers. I really prefer the cost schedule in the D&D 3e variant: it starts at 1 point for a first level spell, and each subsequent level costs 2 more points. (Which is the same formula used for psionic power costs in 3e.)
Anyway, I couldn't begin to guess how many magic missiles one wish spell is worth, so I don't know how I'd actually evaluate these costs. But I get the feeling that 5e went with a slower cost increase in some attempt to mitigate the extent to which low-level spells become trivially cheap for casters using spell points. So there might be good reason for this seeming inelegance.
Skyrocketing spell point pools. The spell-points-by-caster-level progression looks insane, but it's clear that it was determined by looking at what a regular slot-caster could put out at a given level, and what it would take for a point-caster to do the same thing.
But you know what? I'm not buying that rationale. I have a feeling that a lot of high-level wizards go to bed at night with a lot of low-level slots left unused. So that might be way more than your average point-caster actually needs to keep up. And of course if you're not using all those 'extra' points on low-level spells, you can use them to cast more high-level spells than your equal-level slot-caster rivals can.
The 6th-level-and-higher rule. So this one weirdness—limiting point-casters to a maximum of one 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th-level slot per day—seems like a kluge to address my previous complaint. And I kinda really don't like it. In the middle of this system to avoid the gamey of quantification spell slots, we're got this rule where all of a sudden you can't do 6th-level slots anymore today, because you already did one. But hey, you can still do 7th-level slots. And you can just cast your 6th-level spell with a 7th-level slot. It is just very awkward, is all I'm saying.
So what do you folks think about all this? Has anybody ever actually used this variant? Or, for that matter, the old 3e one? How did the balance shake out? And, of course, the dreaded bookkeeping?
So, I'm wondering about the spell point variant in the 5e DMG. And, right off the bat, there are a few things that bug me about it.
Spell point costs. That's just a really weird, inelegant points-to-level conversion schedule, there. After mathing on it a bit, I guess the idea is that each level costs 1⅓ points more than the previous one, but it looks entirely nuts when simplified to integers. I really prefer the cost schedule in the D&D 3e variant: it starts at 1 point for a first level spell, and each subsequent level costs 2 more points. (Which is the same formula used for psionic power costs in 3e.)
Anyway, I couldn't begin to guess how many magic missiles one wish spell is worth, so I don't know how I'd actually evaluate these costs. But I get the feeling that 5e went with a slower cost increase in some attempt to mitigate the extent to which low-level spells become trivially cheap for casters using spell points. So there might be good reason for this seeming inelegance.
Skyrocketing spell point pools. The spell-points-by-caster-level progression looks insane, but it's clear that it was determined by looking at what a regular slot-caster could put out at a given level, and what it would take for a point-caster to do the same thing.
But you know what? I'm not buying that rationale. I have a feeling that a lot of high-level wizards go to bed at night with a lot of low-level slots left unused. So that might be way more than your average point-caster actually needs to keep up. And of course if you're not using all those 'extra' points on low-level spells, you can use them to cast more high-level spells than your equal-level slot-caster rivals can.
The 6th-level-and-higher rule. So this one weirdness—limiting point-casters to a maximum of one 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th-level slot per day—seems like a kluge to address my previous complaint. And I kinda really don't like it. In the middle of this system to avoid the gamey of quantification spell slots, we're got this rule where all of a sudden you can't do 6th-level slots anymore today, because you already did one. But hey, you can still do 7th-level slots. And you can just cast your 6th-level spell with a 7th-level slot. It is just very awkward, is all I'm saying.
So what do you folks think about all this? Has anybody ever actually used this variant? Or, for that matter, the old 3e one? How did the balance shake out? And, of course, the dreaded bookkeeping?